I should be getting a Clear and Utopia loaner soon and I'll eventually be doing a 4 way shootout comparison of Elear, Elex, Clear, and Utopia. Dec 22, 2020 #378 . Thank you for the interesting read. purr1n, Dec 15, 2017 #1. performance. Focal Elex Frequency Response (0db line = 100dbSPL) Focal Elex CSDs Focal Elex Harmonic Distortions (at FR measurement levels) Last edited: Dec 15, 2017. WTB. Top view CSDs … Others may suggest the AKG … The Focal Elear comes in an all black leather coated case. 7Hz lower low-frequency? It will if you put Elear pads on it. I like the Elex for music, but I can't wear it for more than an hour. And they don’t just look expensive, they feel it too. Also what does a Elear with Clear pads sound like? It's that combination of knowledge, candor, graciousness, and well-spokeness. Elex is solid, I own it and Elear. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. They contribute to the overall essence of the headphones themselves. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. May 6, … Dec 22, 2020 #378. The Focal Clear is one of our top-selling headphones and has become a go-to for an open-back design. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So, I received a Focal Clear that I got and I love. I think people typically choose the Elex and Clear over the Elear. Putting Elex pads on Elear accomplishes the same thing. Did you notice the crackle on normal listening or only specifically testing for it on high volumes? I don’t totally hear that much of a resemblance to the HD600 other than some shout, but I can see someone who likes the HD600 gravitate towards this. Dec 22, 2020 #383. Also, the Elex fits in better with my X2, 4XX, 6XX, X love affair. The pads, however, make a very big difference, and some aftermarket pads, like some of the Dekoni ones, will completely re-tune Focals to the point that they don't even sound like Focals anymore. I have the Focal Clear and I've heard other Focal headphones at various stores and shows. Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. The Elex side sounded more forward and impactful, but in retrospect that's a really dumb way of testing. Read full InnerFidelity review here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/focal-clear-over-ear-open-headphones 5Hz vs 12Hz; 7dB/mW higher sound pressure level? I'm very glad that the Elex has adopted the Clear-style of cables despite the headphone originating from a Elear base. Do all of these models have the same clamp strength? I bought a new pair for $1099 delivered. Joined: Sep 24, 2015 Likes Received: 70,016 Dislikes Received: 113 Trophy Points: 113 Location: Padre Island CC TX. Most so called headphone experts will tell you that the Focal Clear is a step up from the Focal Elear. I like the Elex for music, but I can't wear it for more than an hour. Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. Any time I see you've commented on something, I instantly take note. I concur this: Elear trumps in bass quantity compared to Clear, and it sounds distorted and bleeds into the mids on certain tracks. As a recent HD800 convert, I appreciate your review and comparisons. The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. I can't really say specific differences as I haven't done a side-by-side yet. We tried swapping pads and listened, but we tried it in a stupid way: one side had Elear pads and the other had the Elex pads. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. Today, Massdrop is announcing their latest major headphone collaboration, the Massdrop x Focal Elex, a new sibling to Focal's flagship family of headphones (the Elear, Clear, and Utopia).We review and discuss the new Massdrop x Focal Elex, comparing it not just to Focal's other flagship models, but also to the Sennheiser HD650 (HD6XX), including frequency response and THD measurements. I got to spend a number of days with the Utopia enough to know I love it. Joined Mar 9, 2016 Messages 10,735 Likes 10,049 Location Riverview FL. Focal Elear Klipsch HP-3; Frequency Response: 5 Hz-23 kHz : 5 Hz-45 kHz: Impedence: 80 ohms: 25 ohms: Type: open-back, over-ear: triple-vented, semi-open, over-ear: Sensitivity: 104 dBSPL/1mW: 98 dBSPL/1mW: Drivers: 40 mm, “m-shaped dome” free-edge, 52 mm bio-dynamic: … If the purported effects of the pad swap could be replicated in REVERSE, than that could go a long way in furthering the hypothesis that the Elex is really just an Elear with Clear pads--and help us poor schlubs who want to pay as little as possible for the highest possible return in sonic value :P Thx in advance! Focal Clear vs Elear vs Elear with Clear Pads vs Elex Comparison Review. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. I think the elex is considered to be 90-95% of the clears and the elear is the odd triplet. ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? Always had a suspicion that the Elex was going to make the Focal product portfolio kind of awkward. ishca actually likes a headphone for once O.o. Review. I have a lot of problems with it but I know if I sell it I'll just end up with another, like I've already learned once. I only demo’d the Clear once a few months ago for a bit, but I believe it is more detailed and “clear” since it is brighter than the Elex. I can get the Focal Clear for 750€ and wonder if I should pull the trigger.
fab!..that’s supposed to such a classic model. The upper mids are filled in, but not overly emphasized. Focal Stellia vs Focal Clear Headphones In the Box. Jude's review in the Elex thread shows the frequency response between the two phones to be very, very similar. Im looking for one TOTL set of cans to add to my Harem. The sound is overall a little less … Focal Stellia: Focal Clear: Focal Stellia headphones: Focal Clear headphones: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector : 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: 3 m cable with 6.35 mm connector: 3.5 mm to 6.35 mm adapter: 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: zipping rigid travel carrying … The %s aren't too dissimilar. Their sound quality follows more our target curve with excellent mid and treble ranges. Focal has long been one of the biggest names in high end speakers, but its recently ventured into headphones and has been on a … Two cables are included, one with a 6.5mm plug and one with 4-pin XLR, allowing an easy match-up with the variety of desktop amps Massdrop and others make. ), but that's a far cry from $700 to $1500! Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. Where they're different is that the Elex has more air in the treble & a wider sound stage; the Clear has more bass both mid & sub in addition to brighter highs. Dec 22, 2020 #383. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. They have a … share. Focal Clear has the same high sensitivity as Elear, yet the voice-coil has been changed from 80 to 55 Ohms.This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. Dec 22, 2020 #383. amirm said: Yes, I plan to do that. The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. But I can easily say that Elex and Clear are more similar and Elear is the odd man out. Forum Donor. Focal Elex vs. Elear + Clear pads vs. Elear + Utopia pads. (This confirms it?) Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, RME/887/ZDT Jr>Auteur/Atticus/HD800(SDR)/Elex/LCD2C/Verum1/HD6XX. The Focal Elear are great looking headphones that have a high-end and premium feel. Focal Clear CSDs . Yeah, unfortunately that's not how pricing works in audio. I always wondered if the Elex was a Frankenstein baby of the Elear and Clear. SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. The Focal Clear feature an M-shaped, inverted-dome, full-range driver measuring 40mm. 96. [WTB] [USA-MI] [H] PayPal [W] Focal Clear and Focal Elex. I routinely use it as a "control" in my testing. Focal Elear vs Sennheiser HD 600. But it is also a bit brighter than Clear and has a little less bass. Any info or opinions are welcome. SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. I disagree on all 3 fronts. Their sound quality follows more our target curve with excellent mid and treble ranges. There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. While some models go for a workmanlike design, you’ll find nothing of the sort here – even at this price. Anyways... Have you tried pad swapping the Elex pads onto the Elear yet? R. rcstevensonaz Member. Both headphones come in beautiful boxes. I have a pretty big head (Beyers and AKGs almost don’t fit me) and I didn’t experience any discomfort with the Elear I had for a month, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. After that, it’s a bit tougher. Likes: Jimbob54 and thewas. Likes: Rottmannash and Daaadou. Then I got to spend time with an 800 and I knew it was exactly what I was looking for. That's 31 … Can’t wait to read your review! Joined Sep 7, 2018 Messages 470 Likes 308. Obviously, it shares a good deal of the technology developed for the Focal Utopia, which I reviewed in Issue 270, but its drivers are made of aluminum/magnesium rather than of the beryllium used for the Utopia. Generally this headphone doesn’t need a dedicated headphone amp to go … This is false. It fastens closed via magnets on the opening flap. Joined Jun 13, 2020 Messages 96 Reaction score 119 Location Australia. https://www.verumsonus.com/focal-clear-vs-focal-elear-vs-focal-elex-comparison-review/. Posted by. I'm worried he hit his head on the way into the store, I admit I find your measurements strange, when I auditioned both the Elear and the Clear side by side the Elear was clearly the one with the most bass (or rather mid-bass, it felt really boomy compared to the other). Both headphones are fantastic. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. AFAIK the Elex is an Elear with a different paint scheme and pads. How We Score; Annual Awards; Search By Price. Also, where I think people see this as an upgrade from the HD6XX, it is similar in quality, but just better, more resolving and present. Yeah, HD800 will always be up there for me. This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. And DO NOT believe the dogma on the unfairly reviled HD700. Inspired by Modernity vs Antiquity – Focal Elear vs Klipsch HP-3 Comparison Review Specifications. RayDunzl Major Contributor. The Clear carries more subbass but the sound signature pretty much tracks. Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. Some have said you can hardly tell the difference between the two when you do that. The Clear would carve out a really nice role in my collection between my HD800 and Auteur. Also, the Elex fits in better with my X2, 4XX, 6XX, X love affair. Central Scrutinizer. Press J to jump to the feed.
This is a brighter than neutral headphone, and if you throw really bright tracks at it, it’s going to be harsh. Would you say the Clear is worth the premium over the Elex? They also interact more with the pinna and create a more open soundstage than the Focal. Focal Elear. They have the same reference sound and warmth as the HD600 with a more refined and clear presentation. Home; Gear Guide. But I to think they’re a very solid sound. Sennheiser HD 600 . There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. Wouldn't look to upgrade. I don't know much because I haven't heard them both but whilst the elex has a similar fr to the clear the technicalities of the clear are better due to the improved driver. Pretty sweet deal, if you ask me. Close • Posted by. (Auteur,Atticus,Eikon,6XX, ADI-2 Pendant ETC... | Arya | LCD-i4 | Ether C Flow 1.1 | -> CMA400i. The Elear I have in the office I bought as a result of them being available new-but-open-box, from another vendor, for $499. Time to get your act straigt frenchie! I am really surprised they haven’t been reviewed more and as of right now, I think they’re underrated. … I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. 0 transactions. May 6, 2020 #2. I haven't noticed any QC issue, on the contrary – these are the most precisely built and finely tuned headphones I have encountered (except the Utopia obviously). hey basically want to buy either headphones and looking for a good price. Read full InnerFidelity review here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/focal-clear-over-ear-open-headphones Just as a side note, why not pad swap the ELEAR pads onto the Elex and "A-B-C" test them? A lot of people are probably unwilling to put up with the long lead times either company attaches to MD's bulk orders, they don't seem to be getting any shorter drop after drop so maybe that plays into the math. WTB. Sennheiser HD 600. vs. vs. 18 facts in comparison. I've seen the SBAF crowd refer to it as an 'Eclair' :). Settled on Focal Clear, or Elex. They're not gonna work with MD ouf of the goodness of their hearts, the only one getting screwed are those trying to sell on the used market, cause that tanked in either case. Most of the build is metal, and the cups are large and well-made. Have you tried swapping the Elex and Elear pads? Clear, absolutely. Some of the things I've read lead me to believe Focal 'phones might not be comfortable for big heads. purr1n, Dec 20, 2017 #2. Specifically, we get the drivers from an Elear, pads from the Clear, housing elements from both models, and cables from the Clear, all with a blacked out "stealth" theme. Innerfidelity is a much more credible tester than any other on the web, and his plots show an incredibly precise driver match. Looks a lot more even throughout the mids. The Focal Elegias isolate sound really well. After that, it’s a bit tougher. I don’t want to pay more than $700 for headphones and I feel comfortable having these as my endgame. I am trying to save my wallet, but it might be a losing battle. Joined Mar 9, 2016 Messages 10,735 Likes 10,049 Location Riverview FL. Focal Clear has the same high sensitivity as Elear, yet the voice-coil has been changed from 80 to 55 Ohms. This has the effect of making the mids more even. Hi again, ... Hey Reddit, I need some advice. That person thinks the Clear is muddy, shouty, and not as warm as the Elex. I use them with an Audeze Deckard which is an excellent pairing. R. rcstevensonaz Member. The retail price for the Clear is 500.00 more than the Elear. Why is Focal Elear better than Sennheiser HD 600? Philimon, JonCharles, Vorlon and 10 others like this. I never got to spend enough time with the Clear, and was thinking about the Elex. Im looking for one TOTL set of cans to add to my Harem. I'd be willing to upgrade to the Clear if soundstage was noticeably bigger. The HiFiMan Ananda are better critical listening headphones than the Focal Elear. Andrew Robinson 94,896 views Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date; N: purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff … 104dB/mW vs 97dB/mW; 220 Ohms … On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. It is presented bea… Close. Owned the Elex, best headphone under $1000 that I've heard, easily. The Elegias certainly look like a premium pair of headphones. I think the main reason it hasn’t been reviewed much is because they’re just not in the hands of many reviewers. Clear has a different voice coil, but different doesn't objectively mean better.
This is a brighter than neutral headphone, and if you throw really bright tracks at it, it’s going to be harsh. Andrew Robinson 94,896 views Archived. Holy pad rolls! Post #8,300 of 8,441 Coztomba Head-Fier. 37 points. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. Coztomba. Also, I really like the Xs, they've been good to me so far. Too often high-end products neglect appearances; if you’re spending this sort of money, we think you should get a product th… Close. Dec 22, 2020 ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. As someone mentioned, given that most people I knpw take as close to perfect their equipment. solderdude Major Contributor. As @project86 has mentioned, the Elex has borrowed "here 'n there" from the Elear and Clear. ShiZo Senior Member. Frankly, we wouldn’t have been surprised to see a price tag twice the size on these over-ears. My other pick would have been the Ananda, but the lack of comfort and built is unacceptable at this price segment. They also interact more with the pinna and create a more open soundstage than the Focal. I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. Top Reader Voted Headphones; Dynamic … It just so happens companies have been making sucky headphones lately. Elear, Elex, and Clear all use the same driver. The Sennies seem slow in comparison but make up for it with better overall tonality imo. 1 comment. The Elears are listed with a 1 year warranty at Crutchfield (it's dependent on country and retailer). Last year, Massdrop announced a collaboration with Focal and started collecting funds for the Focal Elex. I own the Elex & I think it's good enough, but you may not. Different ears I guess. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. Settled on Focal Clear, or Elex. $1000+ $501-1000; $401-500; $301-400; $201-300; $101-200; Up To $100; First Contact; Features; CanJam Reports; News Releases; Headphones . Yeah the elex is pretty close to the clear, the elear has like audeze tuning with the recessed treble. A lot of MD editions do that tho, what is Senn trying to sell HD660S and even the HD650 for? I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. Posted by 2 years ago. Massdrop Focal Elex Review Hello all!. RayDunzl Major Contributor. Maybe someone even already HAS the Elear, and doesn't realize you can "turn it into" an Elex just by buying the pads. As you said the graph showing the Clear having more bass doesn't seem to align with subjective impressions :), Still, thank you for this effort and for confirming that the Elex is basically the Elear with Clear pads (now I just need to find a way to buy these damn pads). ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. My Clear looks very similar to the one measured here on my EARS (though raw and not DF compensated). May 6, 2020 #2. The Focals have always confused me; my results actually aren’t that different from Tyll’s either in that the Clear extends very slightly better and measures with more bass in general when the shout is taken into account. The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US.
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