Dykman, R. A., Murphee, 0. Having the dog pick up his trail like that tells me he went over the fence and out to the front of my house right where the dog started sniffing the air and alerting. Highly depigmented or albino animals are rare in nature. I thank you for this opportunity. Anim. Scott….you can’t teach people who aren’t willing to learn. It was a long, hard battle, in some ways it continues. Genet. Big killers, such as cancer and tendency to be accident prone, are much harder to correct. International Behavioural Sciences Service, Consultants Bureau, New York. Appl. All purebreeds can suffer issues, are you saying border collies have no problems at all?? Analysis of maternal effects in the inheritance of behavior. Herefords are a high-producing beef breed that are reddish-brown with a white face and belly. It’s not unusual for a paint horse to be plain crazy, especially if he has blue eyes. I, for example, know that my risk for lung cancer based upon this locus is 20% less than average. There is real sadness in my heart, feeling like I could have possibly saved her if I only knew this, then. The 101 Dalmatians TV spin-offs were never really popular to begin with. I was breed warden for eight years and during that time we had every litter BAER tested and made a templates of the markings, so I know what I am talking about, at least in my breed. I’ve asked your four times if you test YOUR DOGS. However, Silversides and Smyth (1986) found a relationship between lighter feather color and congenital tremor. It’s poor breeding that creates week nerved guarding breeds, not the color you dolt. I figured that the 10% were the ones who escaped being humanely euthanized. Maybe in your homeland, you don’t have an Animal Right movement where people are actively trying to ban pet-ownership. There are no working melanocytes in their white. Dalmatians have a well deserved reputation for negative traits no one actually enjoys or wants in the breed. EVERY rescue place will state if you are willing to put in the time, these are WONDERFUL dogs. You being a fellow atheist and all I naturally seemed to link your love of Google suggestions as a tool to provide back-up regarding Dalmatian temperament with the Google suggestion I just stumbled upon. Hard personality: Mini dogs are also hard to train, in fact, they have the same personality of a Rottweiler which means they are short-tempered and can easily become aggressive which is very contradicting to their small size. But a Dalmatian? Author needs to own one, then comment. Trust me I can be very critical when it comes to Dalmatian breeding and dog breeding in general. Do you think that makes you clever? http://www.border-wars.com/2013/07/dogs-dont-smile.html. The Collies i’ve met have not been. I’m sure this won’t change YOUR opinion, but maybe others who read your blog will do more research before condemning an entire breed and the people who love Dalmatians. I have had a ruff ride with my dalmatian!, i gave him a good start as i said socialised him with other dogs but regardless of my efforts he still turned into a highly strung, and often very difficult dog to control. Germany was the first country that made hearing testing and bilaterally hearing parents mandatory. That’s why they are called A and B and not Poodle and Dachshund or something else. You write a shitty blog about your Dalmatian and you’ve never mentioned deafness, uric acidosis, or being bat shit crazy even once. I think it would take a very concerted effort to isolate the puppies to test them and heck, there’s a reason they do more objective tests which actually measure stimulus instead of being like “hey dog, can you HEAR ME NOW!”. I’m admittedly not even going past the first page of that article unless you can point me to the parts where a considerable number of African Americans and Europeans with reasonable access to an education and good role models, are equally likely to commit violent crime and end up in jail. “It still isn’t life threatening or bad in my opinion, reduction in pigmentation is part of evolution and even domestication, piebaldism does not exist in the wild but it does in domestic animals, it even popped up in the russian fur fox farm experiment and foxes with blue eyes also appeared, what do you think this means?”. There is just no reconciling that with the truth, thus you are a committed liar. They occur in dogs at a much higher rate which depletes the gene pool for non carriers because: The immune system is governed by the Major Histocompatability Complex (MHC). Border Collie owner, breeder and enthusiast. Doesn’t mean they don’t also snarl when angry or upset, but if you look it up it is a common breed trait. The science is not closed here, it’s not settled, in fact there’s clearly more ignorance than there are answers. Please stay with your own breed of choice. 89,892-898. In more than 25 different dog breeds, a mutation found in a gene called Microphthalmia Associated Transcription Factor-(MITF) is associated with a piebald spotting. I think multiple centuries qualifies and “drift” certainly can happen in that time frame!”. Dalmatians have VERY few health issues compared to many other breeds. They make great family dogs, loyal watchmen, and energetic play pals. Perfect fit!! Erin: When it comes to horses the piebald gene and existence of the Lethal white stated to be quite common especially in the Paint. What would be wrong with getting rid of merle patterns or blue eyes in huskies? You say that you did not claim that all Dalmatians have a bad temperament no instead you claim that nobody has a chance to breed a level temperament into the Dalmatian breed since it’s genetic predisposition does not even allow for that matter. Why are we talking about Europe? More on Trolling and the Truths of Internet Trolls. There is nothing at all anxious about my dog, you can do anything with her, take her on trains, buses, central London, and she’d never even consider biting anyone. Of course, if you want to hire me to do an essay, by all means. And I am sure you must have met MANY Dalmatians with Rage Syndrom. (1991). Making rash, generalizing statements about anything demonstrates a lack of intellect, I suggest people take his blog posts with a grain of salt. The small breeds seem to suit a larger majority of Pet Owners. If anything it’s the opposite of aggressiveness. I own a 4 year old, black spotted dalmatian male. http://www.horsetesting.com/Canine/ELocus.htm Highest prevalence is seen in white cats, especially those with blue eyes, and the Dalmatian, with many other dog breeds affected to some extent. Jess recently posted..Tazi, a Journey with the Afghan Hounds, ***If you are a dog breeder with even half a brain, you can read a pedigree and you can research the dogs within it. Psychol. Origins and mechanisms in the establishment of cerebral dominance. I also had a bay with 4 black legs and she was a bit of a nightmare at times! 61, 81-88. We’re getting another one when I retire from the navy in three years. I wasn’t attacking Borders and I’m not insulted that you gave opinion on Dals (although it seems that really all you seem to want to is insult me for some reason?) 30 years ago?”, Testicular fortitude is sorely lacking in the dog fancy. The color of the animal’s skin is more important than the color of its fur. you seem to like to tar every dal with the same brush. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM….LOVING BEAUTIFUL SMART LOYAL…CAN SEE AND HEAR…. 3) Hit “Skicka” [Trans. The last time she did that, the next day, when I had her out back, she went to her spot where she would “go” and started sniffing the low place in the fence from top to bottom, then she started tracking and we went all the way out front, following a strong trail, which she lost in the street. While I would love to wag my finger about the low usage of the “registration” dogs… this does need to change. Conditioning of nyala (Tragelaphus angasi) to blood sampling in a crate with positive reinforcement. Your opinion on a dals pre disposition to anxiety is not backed up by fact… it is backed up by opinions that are backed up by opinions.. All dogs can have behavioural problems, most of which stem from their upbringing. Many dog breeds have become inbred, and people want to buy different types of dogs from what our grandparents had. Are they afraid of change? Hyper friendly with all people and other playful dogs. Thank you so much for giving me the exact response I had hoped for. Oh, and for the record, if you compare the number of dogs tested to the number of dogs born between 1990 to 2013, over 10% of the breed has been tested. Instead, you are blogging and asking for donations. BTW, black labradors, flat coated retrievers, black and tan coonhounds, etc. Am. R. (1988). Males are affected more than females which taught us early neuter also needs to be avoided as part of the management of the dogs. And that hasn’t gotten any better. Behavioral programs and revolutionary strategies. They do not have a white coat base color they are either black or liver. She has bonded with another rescue I have who is close in age, so maybe she relies on him. If Humans were like Dalmatians, as you say, there would be no genetic diversity found at that locus. Okay, the Westminster thing is just plain stupid. They don’t even have a conformation requirement. The fact that not all of them develop stones is irrelevant; they all have the potential, and medication or not, this is not a benign disease that has NO effect on quality of life. To say that Dalmatian are just Bad is completely ignorant. Do you like Logical fallacies much? 0 Votes. Predators vigilance and group size in mammals and birds. S., and Snidman, N. (1988). Look at GSDs and other breeds who have a guarding function in their heritage. Dev. The only temperament test which has been proven by a genetics research institute (Genetica) is the one developed by the SBK: URL: http://www.brukshundklubben.se/hundar/mentalbeskrivning-mh/mental-status-per-hundras/ No. Bad things happening from breeding two blue eyed huskies together? We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. There’s little market for dogs that can’t piss without pain save for dogmatic-fancy-as-religion types like you. (1971) found that flecked mice with variegated areas of both pigmented and depigmented areas of skin and fur, have normal visual pathways to the brain even though they are roughly 50% albino. The photo of the Dalmatian showing it’s teeth is the classic Dalmatian smile. Gosh honey, you’re really dense aren’t you? They are born pink and hairless and like the Dals the spots come in later. I stand corrected. Those of us who actually have an education can see so many flaws in the statements here that it defies reality. Because we certainly would have been sued to say the least. All but two have been rescues. They are submissive. But, we, as breeders, are aware of this issue and are working to educate other breeders and enthusiasts so we might keep our beloved dogs and make them healthier. D., and Deesing, M.J. (1997). It is such a shame that you are so persistent on the fact that Dalmatians have not even got a chance to have an excellent temperament as some of the very valid points you are making just get drowned in this ignorance. The placing that brought the biggest smile to my face happened today when my little LUA boy who is from my first US litter and who was exported to a friend of mine in Germany won his age group against all HUA puppies at the German Club show, showing off the fact that if you through a strong line against them you do not even need to suffer any type loss in the first generation of your own personal LUA breeding program. PRECISELY what we said for years when working for recognition of the non registered import Salukis. Magically they would not have 30% deafness rates due to their coloration? White flighty hens, flightyness being linked to color? Like with everything in the dog world I find that those who cannot see confirmation, movement and over-all soundness for themselves rely on Judges opinions and show successes. “The Study of Instinct.” Oxford University Press, New York (reprinted 1961). And it already is. Depigmentation also has a detrimental effect on the visual system. You keep harping on the 100% HUA issue in Dalmatians being the cause of all sorts of doom and gloom for the breed. In humans not all smiles represent being happy. In fact, if not caught early enough, it’s one of the most ruthless and insidious cancers going! ALL OF THEM have the genetic predisposition to be that way. Behav. Paddyannie recently posted..3 Sisters. I didn’t lose anything, nor have you pointed out anything interesting. Why I question the relationship of neurological issues that certainly can affect the temperament and personality is scientific studies that relate to deletion and dilution factor. Siamese cats are able to adapt well to their miswired visual systems (Guillery, 1974). Their hair is stiff and tends to weave themselves into furniture and clothing and are hard to remove. Like you have seen the same situation with the Peke when owner has two. How fair is it to compare when there is missing information for other breeds? See, the thing is, this is a blog. If the show-fanciers can’t fix themselves, then no one can breed dogs– including Christopher. Nature (Landau) 383, 535-538. They’re more likely to be deaf than other dogs, and they are often airheads you can’t train. But functionally the white patches are exactly the same. It surely can not be they love the breed not to correct health conditions that handicap and cause extreme pain. A very low COI. It does NOT result in disaster. Try 10-12% for the win. Sep 9, 2020 - Explore Debbie Kubida's board "Dalmatians" on Pinterest. 25, 85-95. “Scott & Carol Facey’s little corner of the world. A responsible breeder will ensure both parents have gone through all appropriate health tests, ensure they are up to breed standards and all puppies will be baer tested. It has a digestion system to be a meat eater, but primary diet as you are aware is bamboo much like some sort of cousin the red panda which is of the raccoon family. It is no more than a complimentary piece of paper like the Canine Good Citizen program which doesn’t guarantee the dog is mentally stable– just a good trainer. However the Dalmatian breed has actually been around for a very looong time! 285-291. Equally I could say (using stems from your logic) that border breeders are continuously breeding dogs with an incredibly high herding/working instinct and placing them into homes where all they do all day is obsess over balls and are so wired they’re climbing up the walls, snappy and unpredictable. Testing is not important, having dogs that can actually hear is important and other breeds that are worried about deafness barely comes within 1/10th the rate of deafness as Dalmatians or less. Likewise, further limiting the gene pool there are subdiviisons and divisions such as the Parson. Any further comments by you that involve Border Collies on this post will not be published. Anton I am more inclined to believe that the Panda’s white and black markings are attributed to the KIT Gene. There is no other way to describe it. Do you know that the first Health Foundation for Pure Breeds was the Collie funded by its Membership with monies left in Trust Funds? Adult Victims: 0 Our male IG is registered as a red fawn, but looking over the color dilution genetics and considering that he has very dark eyes and a black nose, it appears to me that he’s not a true dilute but simply a light red (and I did worry about CDA when he was younger and had stud tail.). In “Livestock Handling and Transport” (T. Grandin, ed. ALL Dalmatians have the white coat. Behav. I stand by my assessment that JRTs are an extreme piebald breed. Balaban, E. (1997). I would like to see a scientific paper as well. Anton you like many terrior folks love the personality of their JRT. You can also like BorderWars on Facebook for more frequent musings and curiosities. Again you are right, Dalmatians have a high uric acid problem, I also agree that some of the arguments against introducing the LUA’s where ridiculous but some where also valid and after careful evaluation by geneticists and other professionals the advise is to introduce the LUA gene SLOWLY so it is no surprise that only a short time after their international recognition there are no more than 40 breeders. 14, 261-273. They recommend against trying to find a home for deaf dogs, and recommend that anyone who owns a deaf dog ought to kill it and start over with one that can hear. The smile-face may be traced to the primate’s grimace or fear grin. Im not trying to make any breed look better, I like border collies, first dog was a BC mix. That is all. The dog turns his head away, squints his eyes (not in a happy way I would argue) and after considerable prompting (or pressure), looks “guilty.” Except, the “guilty” look is actually a perfect example of what is called a “submissive grin,” used to appease another higher status individual. Please don’t call me pathetic, nowhere have I made attempts to personally insult or upset you, kindly give me the same respect. There are plenty of rescues who feel differently, and more power to them, they want to do the hard work by repairing other people’s mistakes, paying for other people’s mistakes, by all means. He lost his credibility in the first 10 seconds. However the Panda’s eyes likewise are dark. Look down the list, heck Poodles are worse than Dals! So don’t say things that you have no intention of upholding. Most Dalmatians are far from the cute Dalmatians you saw on 101 Dalmatians. It would seem Medicine has been reaching back more deeply into the patterns that govern and influence illness, as we have long known the importance and significant power of predetermined genetic state. You are taking this way to far. In both dogs and cats, a white or piebald coat color is also related to an increased incidence of deafness (Schaible and Brumbaugh, 1976; Sorsby and Davey, 1954). 295-320. It is ILLEGAL to put any healthy puppy to sleep you are referring to the culling of puppies in GSD only that used to be a terrible practise aprox. I guess one instance of this partially being proven would be the Russian Fur Fox Farm Experiment. I perform spell check fee of charge. Have fun with them. Simply wait until you catch your Dalmatian in a sitting position, say ‘Sit!’ and give them a treat. Why not just do some more crosses? Another visit is then performed by the breed warden before the puppies are homed where all visible and testable results are recorded in the Stud book. Dalmatians are very intelligent but mature slowly. They are not natural stick collectors, for instance. Dave recently posted..From Which He Flushed. -as I am keen to point out that I don’t think they’re all the same despite my aforementioned experiences. If you love it so much, introduce another coat color. One of the Clubs publishes their stud book online, free for everybody to see and since I have access to the other Clubs books I can assure you that the statistics are all the same. Although there id definitely a connection between lack of pigment, particularly body spots, and sensorineural deafness, I have found none in temperament—at all. I guess Dalmatian breeders make that quite easy for you since we tend to be pretty open minded and PUBLISH our breeds shortcomings. J. Anim. The rather too clever Dutch who apply market principles to everything completely transformed these two breeds with the use of TBs and German warmblood stallions plus a few others like the Celle Francais etc. Behavioral agitation during handling of cattle is persistent over time. and again, I agree that we should cross them a little to rid them of problems (I believe this with all breeds) If your point is that pure breeds need to have their gene pool widened then that should be an opinion across all breeds. I’m sure there are more complicated Dals out there, it’s just i’ve not met one yet! Train wreck in very inappropriate. Click on “Raser” [trans. You might think any club, and every collie breeder would make sight a priority in their breeding, and quickly work to correct this sad problem. This is a universal problem across the entire fancy and beyond in dogs and that’s why I bring it up. The panda is an anomality of evoltuion it climbs and walks like a bear. 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